a slight positive on reducing non-defense spending for republicans. but then you take these last three. raising the retirement age, raising income taxes for everybody, raising medicare for spending. net negative for all three political factions. democrats, republicans, and independents. one thing you'll notice here quickly is that the red here, reducing military spending debt, is the most net negative for the republicans. even more negative than raisings taxes on all people. >> you know, i look at that. if i'm understanding it correctly, my initial reaction is, are americans just in a fantasy land over medicare spending? you can't get there unless you reduce medicare spending. >> i think that may be true. i think when we talk about leadership and political leadership taking risks, i think one of the things people have to do is politicians step forward and say, okay, here's the benefit and here's the cost. if weaver get there, we can start to poll that and ask people, will you pay "x" amount for this government service. that's really the question that'